Dear Seismobuild team,
After having carried out a pushover analysis of a building, I am comparing the values obtained by the Seismobuild software of a beam, with the calculations done by hand. In particular, as regards the shear capacity, following the formula (A.12) EC8 – PART 3. I would like to ask you how Seismobuild calculates these two quantities (I searched the manual but it doesn't mention them):
x: the compression zone depth
dx: the depth of inclined strut
Thank you in advance,
Andrea
Shear capacity
Re: Shear capacity
Dear andrea.turchi,
SeismoBuild uses fiber-section model. Hence, through sectional analysis we are able to know which fibers are under tension or compression.
You may export these values for all the calculations by exporting the Annex (analytical calculations) in your Report. All the information needed for the hand calculations are available in this Annex.
SeismoBuild uses fiber-section model. Hence, through sectional analysis we are able to know which fibers are under tension or compression.
You may export these values for all the calculations by exporting the Annex (analytical calculations) in your Report. All the information needed for the hand calculations are available in this Annex.
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Re: Shear capacity
Dear SeismoBuild team,
I would like to ask you about the axial force generated in Shear Capacity checks in the beams. In particular, a very high value comes out; I understood that this is a fictitious force that comes out of the interaction between beam and slab and what I wanted to know is if there is a way to decrease it to real values. If I consider N = 0 the shear capacity goes down considerably. Also, does this axial force only affect capacity or does it also affect demand?
Secondly, I wanted to ask about the Shear Capacity formula (A.12) EC8 – PART 3. SeismoBuild replaces the quantity (h-x)/(2Lv) with dx/L: what is the reason for this?
Thank you very much for your time,
Andrea
I would like to ask you about the axial force generated in Shear Capacity checks in the beams. In particular, a very high value comes out; I understood that this is a fictitious force that comes out of the interaction between beam and slab and what I wanted to know is if there is a way to decrease it to real values. If I consider N = 0 the shear capacity goes down considerably. Also, does this axial force only affect capacity or does it also affect demand?
Secondly, I wanted to ask about the Shear Capacity formula (A.12) EC8 – PART 3. SeismoBuild replaces the quantity (h-x)/(2Lv) with dx/L: what is the reason for this?
Thank you very much for your time,
Andrea
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Re: Shear capacity
1) Shear Capacity checks in the beams¨This is a known problem of all fibre-based frame models. In SeismoBuild and SeismoStruct, you can calculate the shear capacity of the beams without considering the fictitious axial force by unchecking the corresponding checkbox in Advanced Settings>ELements in SeismoBuild or in Project Settings>Elements in SeismoStruct.
2) Shear Capacity formula (A.12) EC8 – PART 3: Regaridng the axial force term of the shear capacity, we replaced the (h-x)/(2Lv) term because its contribution becomes extremely unstable with very small or very large values of Lv, i.e. in members when either Q or M is close to zero in one of its edges (which is not rare at all). Note that the approach that we followed is whe accepted by the academic community (e.g. see Seismic shear strength of reinforced concrete columns. MJN Priestley, R Verma, Y Xiao - Journal of structural engineering, 1994) and that the two approaches are theoretically equivalent.
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2) Shear Capacity formula (A.12) EC8 – PART 3: Regaridng the axial force term of the shear capacity, we replaced the (h-x)/(2Lv) term because its contribution becomes extremely unstable with very small or very large values of Lv, i.e. in members when either Q or M is close to zero in one of its edges (which is not rare at all). Note that the approach that we followed is whe accepted by the academic community (e.g. see Seismic shear strength of reinforced concrete columns. MJN Priestley, R Verma, Y Xiao - Journal of structural engineering, 1994) and that the two approaches are theoretically equivalent.
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Re: Shear capacity
Hello, can you clarify how sismobuild calculates depth of inclined strut, dx?seismosoft wrote: ↑20 Sep 2021, 13:44 2) Shear Capacity formula (A.12) EC8 – PART 3: Regaridng the axial force term of the shear capacity, we replaced the (h-x)/(2Lv) term because its contribution becomes extremely unstable with very small or very large values of Lv, i.e. in members when either Q or M is close to zero in one of its edges (which is not rare at all). Note that the approach that we followed is whe accepted by the academic community (e.g. see Seismic shear strength of reinforced concrete columns. MJN Priestley, R Verma, Y Xiao - Journal of structural engineering, 1994) and that the two approaches are theoretically equivalent.
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Re: Shear capacity
The compression zones at the edges of the member can be correctly defined from the strain sign of the monitoring points. Dx is the projection of the distance between the centers of gravity of the compression zones on the axis (2 or 3) under consideration.
The procedure is well described in the paper that we referred to.
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The procedure is well described in the paper that we referred to.
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Re: Shear capacity
Do you please mean that this problem arises even with pushover analyses?seismosoft wrote: ↑20 Sep 2021, 13:44 1) Shear Capacity checks in the beams¨This is a known problem of all fibre-based frame models. In SeismoBuild and SeismoStruct, you can calculate the shear capacity of the beams without considering the fictitious axial force by unchecking the corresponding checkbox in Advanced Settings>ELements in SeismoBuild or in Project Settings>Elements in SeismoStruct.
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Re: Shear capacity
Indeed, this is a general problem of all fibre-based models, in any program, and in any analysis type. Note that both SeismoStruct and SeismoBuild also feature a concentrated plasticity model infrmDBPH, which is not fibre based
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