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collapse in IDA

Posted: 01 Feb 2014, 10:51
by afakhimi
Hi every body
I have a steel frame with infrmFBH. i want to perform IDA ( Drift_max Vs Sa(T)--> spectral acceleration in fundamental period, following of this performance, I want to extract Sa(T) in collapse point. but the IDA curve doesn't have zero-slope and i don't really know what point is collapse point in this curve?
actually, the slope of curve are increasing instead of declining.[V]
thanks a lot

Re: collapse in IDA

Posted: 01 Feb 2014, 14:09
by seismosoft
Hi Afakhimi,

With slip, you mean the slope of the curve?

SeismoSoft Suppoty

Re: collapse in IDA

Posted: 01 Feb 2014, 16:07
by nedved33
yes slope. sorry
he is my friend and working on same project.

Re: collapse in IDA

Posted: 01 Feb 2014, 16:48
by afakhimi
quote:Originally posted by seismosoft

Hi Afakhimi,

With slip, you mean the slope of the curve?

SeismoSoft Suppoty

yes, i am perplexed for this problem

Re: collapse in IDA

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 02:14
by ruipinho
Hi afakhimi,

There may be many reasons for an IDA envelope curve not to feature a post-peak softening slope (the same may happen when running pushover analysis).

For instance, if your axial load level is relatively modest and your steel material features an ever-increasing hardening, then it may well happen that P-Delta effects will not kick-in and the structure will continue to "harden".

What one needs to do in such cases is to correct any modelling deficiencies (e.g. introduce a fracture strain for the steel, correct the axial load definition, etc) and/or define appropriate failure/collapse criteria (e.g. maximum interstorey drift, maximum chord rotation, etc) which will indicate when collapse occurs (independently of if the analysis continued to run or not).

Rui